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Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:41 pm
by CassFanForLife
Hey there jcg...yes, I saw that too, ( on California Dreaming DVD - " Sing For Your Supper " performance ) and also am wondering what exactly was said... we'll never know, but it sorts of adds to the performance.

Like most of you, I like the Monterey clips for their LIVE stuff, especially "Straight Shooter", " I Call Your Name ". You really hear Cass .

Did anyone from here, actually got to catch them live in person ? I wish I had been born a tad earlier than I was, for I sure would of went to see them live, you wouldn't of had to ask me twice or twist my arm....even Cass on her own....

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:38 pm
by jcg
Hi Adam & CassFan

It's funny how uncomfortable Denny looks after Cass' apparent censuring (of course, it could be the Crown Royal!). Here's hoping there's an expert lip-reader among us!!!!

I also love the whole Monterey performance, warts and all. Since I am primarily enamored of Cass, I love the opportunity to hear the Mamas and the Papas essentially as a trio (due to Michelle's microphone mishap). Also: when Cass holds the last "yeah" of "I Call Your Name" on her knees, it's like the foreshock to a giant earthquake! It never fails to break me out in goose-bumps. Just stunning.

jcg

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:06 am
by John Sands
I've often wondered how much, in any, Monterey footage exists that we haven't seen. Any ideas anyone and if there is any can u fill me in on how it can be obtained?

Gracias

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:09 am
by Nicole
Hi John,
Unfortunately I don't have a clue about existing footage, but I think that's a really good question.
Take care,
Nicole :mrgreen:

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:20 am
by Ars_Nova_Chris
Ya know, I don't think they sang anything there other than the songs on the Monterey LP (w/ the exception of San Francisco w/ Scott on lead, which came in the set right before Dancing In the Street, I believe).

I have the Monterey Blu-Ray set, and seemingly the entire set is on there on film (including San Francisco), w/ one exception, and I don't think I've ever seen any footage of it anywhere - Spanish Harlem.

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:53 pm
by jcg
Hi Chris

I agree with you. Every discography I've ever seen lists the same set from the LP.

The Criterion Collection DVD/Blu-Ray Complete Monterey Pop is supposed to be complete. I believe somewhere in the booklet that comes with the set, it goes into detail why the lack of footage - including that some people were just too stoned to shoot! I also notice, watching the outtake performances, the large amount of hair that got through the camera gates! it is very apparent throughout the Mamas and Papas set and probably had a large role in the footage not being used for the film.

It would be great if they had included a newly re-edited version of the whole Monterey event in some kind of chronological order, but other than that, the Monterey Complete set is pretty satisfying.

jc

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:28 am
by John Sands
I was thinking of behind the scenes footage.

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:02 pm
by terry anderson
RE: Sing For Your Supper clip- I have watched this performance in times passed and noticed the negative interactions also. It definately appears that denny was experiencing the effects of Something during this performance. Michele was rather animated and even said something to John about it. Whatever Denny did/said to Cass, may have said, "Just you wait till I get you backstage, cuz I'm going to raise YOUR voice about a tone and a half!" Or something to that effect. Cass would have been the wrong person to rub the wrong way. I guess We'll just find us a lipreader to settle this once and for all!

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:45 pm
by dunhill
I believe that the 3 songs that appear on the now out-of-print The Sullivan Years - The Mod Sound are sung live with pre-recorded music tracks (no pre-recorded vocals except backing vocals). You can definitely hear the group singing quite clearly. It's sad that these recordings aren't technically much better than the Monterey stuff, but at least you can hear the WHOLE group. I believe these performances have never made it onto any of the Sullivan DVDs.

Amazon has some available here: http://www.amazon.com/Sullivan-Years-Sound-Various-Artists/dp/B000000GUG.

Re: Best LIVE version of M & P song they ever did ....

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:27 pm
by Alby
Hi,
my favourite live performances are Monterey's "Got a feelin'" with Cass leading great and the very nice harpsichord in the final part. From Monterey I also like "Dancing in the street", I find this version better than the album's.
I also like "Words of love" and "Creeque Alley" from Ed Sullivan, "I call your name" from Shindig and the songs of Barry McGuire where they do backing vocals in Shindig.

Albert.