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Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby Ars_Nova_Chris » Mon May 12, 2008 12:17 am

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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby Rbcsoup » Mon May 12, 2008 2:53 am

It's been in the works a while. I did some of the research and worked on liner notes for it. The sound of these recordings is brilliant.

Next out--hopefully later this year---will be Man On the Moon/Space

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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby John Sands » Mon May 12, 2008 9:16 am

'All' tracks previously 'unreleased'??????
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Postby paulhllywood » Mon May 12, 2008 11:14 am

you jumped me to the gun, John. Anyone ever hear of "Pay, Pack and Follow"? ..or perhaps these are completely different mixes?
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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby John Sands » Mon May 12, 2008 12:36 pm

It is "Payback" and I wonder why they say all tracks previously unreleased. Clearly an error. Cool but and I we now have a product to look forward to
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Postby Ars_Nova_Chris » Mon May 12, 2008 4:31 pm

Umm, no, the CD was called "Pay Pack and Follow". And again, no, I do not believe it is an error, all tracks are previously unreleased. A quote from a Varese employee states, "In addition we have gone back to the original 1977 session tapes with no overdubs." These would then be completely new mixes, one would imagine.
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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby John Sands » Tue May 13, 2008 5:59 am

I used the term "Payback" as an abreviation. If it's different mixes then I guess it is 'unreleased' thought it seems a bit of a stretch to me.
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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby Nicole » Wed May 14, 2008 7:10 am

Hi everyone,
I'm really confused. Can anyone clear up for me how this is different from 2001's Pay, Pack, and Follow? I guess there were different mixes of this album? Including the bonus material and two tracks that are different from Pay, it almost seems like the same album. I'd still get it for those tracks though.
Thanks, Nicole :mrgreen:
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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby Ars_Nova_Chris » Wed May 14, 2008 9:35 am

Ok, there's new info up on the website which clears it all up...

"The never released album recorded with The Rolling Stones (15 tracks). Six tracks are previously unreleased.

This project was the last major creative effort by John Phillips before his drug arrest in 1980. Various original and duplicate multitrack and mix tapes were stored, lost and found again, and some trickled out over the next three decades in the form of bootlegs. As John put it, the tapes “had a life force of their own!” Just before John’s passing in 2001, John assembled and released an overdubbed, re-engineered and remixed version of some of the shelved material on an album called “Pay, Pack and Follow,” at the time unaware of the location of the album masters of the original 1978 mixes. Those original album masters were not found until 2003.

The original 1978 album mix is released here for the first time, so here, at last, is the album as John originally intended it."
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Re: Umm...wow! Where'd this come from?

Postby Nicole » Sat May 17, 2008 10:01 am

Thanks! :mrgreen:
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